о политическом насилии и градусе риторики
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rsokolov1. Пока либералы причитают "в нашей стране нет места политическому насилию", фашисты требуют начать рубить либералам головы.
2. В стране, конституция которой гарантирует свободу слова и право на владение оружием, политические убийства практически неизбежны.
3. Индивидуальные акты политического террора - не то же самое, что организованное политическое насилие. Единственный пример организованного политического насилия из недавней истории - это штурм Капитолия 6 января 2021-го года.
4. Давайте вспомним, что наши местные "правые" писали о штурме Капитолия.
А ничего они не писали! К кому в журнал ни зайдешь, у всех был в первую половину января творческий отпуск, а у кого-то и дольше. Один только юзер stas написал несколько невнятный пост про десакрализацию демократии.
5. Ханания о сегодняшнем убийстве и моментально порожденном им дискурсе:
"The argument that “the left” is somehow responsible goes along the lines that Democrats and liberals say bad things about Donald Trump and conservatives. Once in a while, then, it’s unsurprising that some unstable person comes along and takes these rantings seriously.
This argument makes sense on its own terms. The problem is that it is made by people who have chosen Donald Trump as the leader of their movement.
If you were going to place every national politician on a scale from 1 to 10 regarding how hyperbolic, mean-spirited, and cruel they are towards their enemies, you would have to put everyone else somewhere between 1-5 just to create enough room to put Trump at 10. There is simply no comparison between him and any other major politician. And his movement has taken after him. This is an administration that regularly refers to judges who rule in ways they don’t like as “Marxists.” We’ve become immune to this stuff. Imagine Biden or Obama calling a judge a “fascist” for overturning one of their policies. Name calling, lies, and ad hominem attacks that would have been unthinkable for every other administration in American history are daily occurrences in life under the Trump administration.
When a movement has chosen Donald Trump as its leader, there are many arguments it can make. Perhaps the left is so powerful and such a malevolent force that its opponents need a man who is completely fearless, and unwilling to be pushed around. Or maybe the effects of demographic change are so threatening that the right cannot be too harsh towards a president on its own side as long as he is doing something to reverse it. But one thing a movement can never do after choosing Trump as its leader is argue that civility and decency towards one’s opponents are important qualities for politicians to have. You’ve forever lost the moral high ground in this area."
2. В стране, конституция которой гарантирует свободу слова и право на владение оружием, политические убийства практически неизбежны.
3. Индивидуальные акты политического террора - не то же самое, что организованное политическое насилие. Единственный пример организованного политического насилия из недавней истории - это штурм Капитолия 6 января 2021-го года.
4. Давайте вспомним, что наши местные "правые" писали о штурме Капитолия.
А ничего они не писали! К кому в журнал ни зайдешь, у всех был в первую половину января творческий отпуск, а у кого-то и дольше. Один только юзер stas написал несколько невнятный пост про десакрализацию демократии.
5. Ханания о сегодняшнем убийстве и моментально порожденном им дискурсе:
"The argument that “the left” is somehow responsible goes along the lines that Democrats and liberals say bad things about Donald Trump and conservatives. Once in a while, then, it’s unsurprising that some unstable person comes along and takes these rantings seriously.
This argument makes sense on its own terms. The problem is that it is made by people who have chosen Donald Trump as the leader of their movement.
If you were going to place every national politician on a scale from 1 to 10 regarding how hyperbolic, mean-spirited, and cruel they are towards their enemies, you would have to put everyone else somewhere between 1-5 just to create enough room to put Trump at 10. There is simply no comparison between him and any other major politician. And his movement has taken after him. This is an administration that regularly refers to judges who rule in ways they don’t like as “Marxists.” We’ve become immune to this stuff. Imagine Biden or Obama calling a judge a “fascist” for overturning one of their policies. Name calling, lies, and ad hominem attacks that would have been unthinkable for every other administration in American history are daily occurrences in life under the Trump administration.
When a movement has chosen Donald Trump as its leader, there are many arguments it can make. Perhaps the left is so powerful and such a malevolent force that its opponents need a man who is completely fearless, and unwilling to be pushed around. Or maybe the effects of demographic change are so threatening that the right cannot be too harsh towards a president on its own side as long as he is doing something to reverse it. But one thing a movement can never do after choosing Trump as its leader is argue that civility and decency towards one’s opponents are important qualities for politicians to have. You’ve forever lost the moral high ground in this area."
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Date: 2025-09-11 05:14 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2025-09-11 11:48 am (UTC)Ну и сейчас они занимаются ровно тем, в чём упрекают оппонентов: раздувании ненависти и призывами к политическим репрессиям.